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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Jungleland le Lun 27 Fév 2006 - 8:46

effectivement Crossroads c'est un peu nanar comme tu dis

le coup du duel entre le jeunot et Steve Vai mouais bof (mais j'ai rien contre Steve Vai, je le préfère de loin à Malmsteen, au moins lui il a pas la grosse tête)

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Message par Ayler le Mar 23 Mai 2006 - 12:40

Robert Johnson a éclipsé la plupart de ses contemporains en raison d'une surexposition médiatique... qui ne doit pas faire oublier l'essentiel : sa musique est sublime !

Comme un certain nombre d'entre vous peut-être, je suis venu à RJ via les Stones de Love In Vain et le Crossroads de Cream.
Je me suis procuré les deux volumes du King Of The Delta Blues. Les premières écoutes furent déconcertantes : j'avais le sentiment d'écouter des variations sur trois/quatre titres, pas plus.

A part Muddy Waters (nettement plus accessible IMHO, je ne connaissais pas grand chose en blues alors.

Mais les écoutes répétées furent rapidement récompensées : l'oeuvre de Johnson est d'une intensité peu commune. Sa voix est super émouvante, jouant sur de nombreux registres : la plainte, la peur (voire l'effroi), le charme, l'ironie, le dépit, la nostalgie...
Il n'est certes pas l'inventeur du blues... mais il est un de ses plus remarquables interprètes.

Son influence sur Muddy Waters est immense : dans une large mesure, je trouve que les premiers enregistrements de ce dernier sont un prolongement électrique de l'oeuvre de RJ.
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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Invité le Ven 7 Juil 2006 - 15:57

Il faut quand même savoir que la surexposition médiatique dont parle Ayler est bien celle des années 60 et suivantes...
A ce sujet, je considère aux fans qui comprennent l'anglais le livre de Elijah Wald "escaping the delta" à voir içi :
http://www.elijahwald.com/rjohnson.html
Wald y explique très clairement que RJ était complètement inconnu en termes d'exposition médiatiques en son temps et le compare aux rappeurs actuels qui veulent devenir des stars pour le fric, les sapes, les gonzesses...
Il analyse aussi les influences de ses prédécesseurs sur RJ : ainsi les interjections de Peetie Wheatstraw, le chant de Leroy Carr, ou encore les textes de Skip James, les riffs de Son House...
c'est là qu'on se rend compte que RJ n'a fait que syncrétiser toutes ses influences pour créer un type de blues qui sera joué jusqu'à aujourd'hui...
je recommande vraiment ce livre qui se lit même si on n'est pas bilingue en anglais.

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Jungleland le Ven 7 Juil 2006 - 16:21

bienvenue

et merci du tuyau : ce livre a l'air fort bien fait. Je vais faire l'effort de travailler mon anglais


c'est vrai que Robert Johnson a synthétisé bon nombre d'influences pour devenir un acteur majeur, mais en y ajoutant sa propre marque de fabrique dans son jeu de guitare et dans son registre vocal comme le disait Ayler.

les textes de Skip James ? je sais pas, ou alors ça m'a peut être échappé. Mis à part Devil got my woman et 2 ou 3 autres j'ai pas trop ressenti ça ... mais bon je ne connais pas tout Skip James Wink

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Message par Invité le Ven 7 Juil 2006 - 17:11

pour skip james je pensais surtout à 22-20 blues qui me fait penser à une chanson de RJ
par contre de mémoire, Gérard Herzaft mentionne dans son encyclopédie du blues que skip james a été dégouté lorsque Johnny temple et RJ ont repris le thème de devil got my woman devenu "Me and the devil"

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Message par Jungleland le Ven 7 Juil 2006 - 19:47

tiens confused

j'avais toujours pensé que ça avait servi d'inspiration à Hellhound On My Trail

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Invité le Sam 8 Juil 2006 - 13:02

ouais tu dois avoir raison, je vérifie cette info et je confirmerai ou infirmerai en conséquence
en tout cas il fau tlire ce bouquin de Elijah Wald parce qu'en plus il dresse un hit parade des tubes de l'époque et on se rend compte que RJ est un parfait inconnu...
tous ses titres sont analysés et c'est assez impressionant de se dire que finalement il n'a rien fait d'autre que mélanger tous les styles qui l'ont imprégné

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Message par Invité le Dim 9 Juil 2006 - 0:00

par contre il tourne pas la de rumeur sur sa mort, en effet des "temoin" on fait plusieur temoignage, la thes de l'empoisonnement a la Strychine (dasn une bouteille de whisky prohibé a cette époque) étan la plus répendu et celle qui est adopter en général. il y a neammoins le temoignage de plusieur temoin qui disent qu'il est mort assassiné poignardé ou "pistolé" lol,et ceux qui pense qu'il est mort de la syphilis (qu'il avait on en est presque sur, en effet alcool, fille de joie, partouze)

Il faut savoir que Sonny boy était present lors de sa mort et lors de son assassinat dans un bar! L'anecdote veux que Sonnyboy ai prevenue RJ de ne pas boire dans une bouteille de whisky qu'il n'a pas decapsullé lui meme, et passant outre se conceil et cette avertissment il se serez empoisonner

Maintenant c'est lequel de Sonny BOy le Sonny Boy williamson 1ou 2

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Message par Jungleland le Dim 9 Juil 2006 - 9:24

c'est certainement le 2 puisqu'il a travaillé avec RJ pas mal de temps (et pas le 1 à ma connaissance)

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Invité le Dim 9 Juil 2006 - 10:21

vérification faite, d'après le bouquin de Herzhaft, devil got my woman aurait inspiré successivement evil devil blues de johnny temple, qui l'aurait pompé sur skip james, avec qui il était pote, et me and the devil par RJ.
en tout cas écoute 22-20 par skip puis 32-20 par RJ, enregistré cinq ans après...

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Jungleland le Mar 11 Juil 2006 - 13:38

A propos du livre d'Elijah Wald je vous livre ci-dessous un article écrit par un membre du Blindman's Blues Forum, Frankie Bon Ton, et qu'il m'a autorisé à poster ici.


C'est en anglais mais très compréhensible. Dès que j'ai un peu de courage j'essaierai de le traduire.


Partie 1

In Defense of Robert Johnson

An ever so mild critique of Elijah Wald’s “Escaping the Delta” and various other musings
By Frank Matheis © 2006

Musicologist Elijah Wald has already published two books since he released “Escaping the Delta- Robert Johnson and the Invention of the Blues”. It may seem unusually late for me to write commentary about a book published in 2004, but I had to think about it, to wait until I was ready. Sorry, it took me a while. I had waited for others to take it on, to no avail. Considering that Wald evidently intended to turn the blues world upside down, it is surprising that the big fish musicologists and powerhouse blues pundits most affected by the controversy kept such an uncharacteristically low profile. This book was not greeted by a great deal of published scholarly discourse and intellectual rebuttals. The predicted passionate discussions never came outside of the insular blues symposiums. One reason may be that Elijah Wald is a first rate writer and that this book, like all his others, is well written and researched, and holds up to skeptical scholarly scrutiny even if it expresses unpopular or blasphemous opinions. There is nothing like a bit of well-reasoned controversy to help spur book sales. Wald, I assume, would have accepted and even welcomed a much heavier tide of criticism. While my critique will most likely not evoke another round of book sales, maybe it’s time for me, a little fish, to add a few simplistic points to the minimalist debate.

As a consequence of Wald’s book, these are ironic times for poor Mr. Johnson, the famous, infamous and mythic bluesman who died at age 27 in 1938, with only 29 recorded songs– yet, he is arguably one of the most influential blues singer of all times. I believe it is safe to say that there have been more recorded covers of Robert Johnson songs than of any other blues artist, easily making Robert Johnson one of the most emulated figures in the blues. While his original 78 rpm Vocalian “race record” recordings sold only in the thousands, the Columbia/Legacy 2 CD box-set of his complete recordings, issued in 1990, sold more than a million copies worldwide, more than any blues record to date. They even put his picture on a US postage stamp, sans the dangling cigarette as to not influence the masses toward vice. Mr. Johnson was also inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of fame. At the same time that Wald ‘s book hit the streets, British guitar superstar Eric Clapton led the blues charts with a tribute CD to his hero, entitled “Me and Mr. Johnson”. (There are currently no less than three tribute CDs in the stores or soon forthcoming -- Pyeng Threadgill, Eric Clapton, and Rory Block).
Indeed, it was Clapton and his British rock star compatriots who helped seat Johnson to the blues throne in the late 60’s to ‘70’s.
The blues press generally received Elijah Wald’s provocative “Escaping the Delta” with praise and sycophant accolades, while many in the blues establishment were left seething, outraged by the perceived dethroning of Robert Johnson – especially those who over-romanticized Mr. Johnson in previously published biographies.
Before I get started, let me clarify that I hold Elijah Wald in high esteem, as a writer, musicologist and musician. While we have never met personally, we have conversed and even collaborated when Wald contributed a commentary to one of my radio documentaries. We are on friendly terms and I respect him personally and professionally. “Escaping the Delta” is a superb book of which he can be very proud for many reasons.
Essentially, Wald, offers the hypothesis that Robert Johnson was basically irrelevant during his lifetime and that Johnson’s legacy was predominately the creation of white romanticists who hailed him as the most important hero of the early blues, and a founding catalyst of rock 'n' roll. Indeed, Wald argues that the very essence of the blues image was reshaped by a revisionist perspective, which formed a distorted view among white fans. The blues was a form of pop music, says Wald, not the traditional folk music romanticized by whites. He takes a new look at the history of blues, thorough a critical exploration of the Johnson myth, attempting to frame Johnson in the context of his time. Not only that, he makes a strong point that Johnson was a mere emulator who distilled the musical influences of his time, or, when you get right down to it, that he took heavily from others to the point of mere plagiarism. A separately sold Yazoo companion CD, “Back to the Crossroads- The Roots of Robert Johnson”, supports this contention.

The blues world is small. By comparison to any other American music genre, blues record sales are low, with few exceptions. The small blues world can be subdivided into the miniscule minority of devoted fans, serious listeners and hardcore aficionados who bother reading about the history and background, and subscribe to blues magazines; and, the vast majorities of regular people who just casually listen to the music, buy a few records and generally don’t care to become experts in the genre. Most of the latter group apply the common sense test: “does it sound good or not”, and could not give a hoot about musicological contentions and the intellectualization of pundits, or about petty black and white, race-based talk, usually perpetrated by white blues snobs. Most blues fans are not going to read “Escaping from the Delta”. The tiny universe of (mostly white) blues scholars and serious blues fans already knew that Johnson was relatively unknown in his lifetime and would not be in disagreement with most of the relevant points Wald makes in his expose.
I fall into the aficionado category. Having been a serious blues fan for more than 35 years, I own more than a thousand blues records covering the gamut of the genre. “I got them all” as they say. There are very few blues musicians who do not hold even a small space on my library shelf. I read all the major blues books and also play blues harmonica and feature blues on my radio programs. From my perspective, Wald may be fundamentally correct in many, but not all, of his points– most of which were not new revelations. The big question is: So what? My supposition is that all of what Wald wrote may be good and well, but the answer as to why Robert Johnson became a popular blues figure actually has nothing to do with the hypothesis put forth in his book. It is actually much simpler.

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Message par Jungleland le Mar 11 Juil 2006 - 13:40

Partie 2

Just recently I saw a show by an artist who Wald fleetingly mentions in his book. Vincent Van Gogh’s drawings were on exhibit at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York. When viewing the artworks, I was thinking as much about Robert Johnson as about Vincent Van Gogh, both being two of my favorite artists, comparable in multiple ways - including their posthumous rise to fame and glory. With his rhythmic patterns of color, Van Gogh has always seemed to me to be the most musical of all visual artists. His two-dimensional picture planes evoke a rich texture, a melody of shapes and feelings that visualize music, even more than artists who openly attempt to accomplish this, such as Romare Bearden. Conversely, Robert Johnson’s inventive playfulness reminds me of Van Gogh in his sharp exaggeration of the essential and leaving the obvious vague, but strong. Like Van Gogh’s colors, Johnson’s music is a flowing swirl of sound, bold, daring and powerfully expressive; yet, with a backdrop of elegant emptiness - with compelling, longing, emotional singing - musical brush strokes. To me, they have always had a connection, the same expressiveness with different mediums.

During a single day at the Metropolitan Museum, 30,000 visitors filed past Van Gogh’s artwork, probably more people than had seen his work during his entire lifetime. Like Johnson, Van Gogh was fundamentally not important in the art world of his period, but today he is accepted as one of the most beloved, popular and celebrated visual artists of all time. Someone could write a book pointing to the fact that during the three years of Van Gogh’s most fruitful creative period (1887-90), he was not just an insignificant figure in Dutch (as in the nation, not the art movement of the same name) and European art; rather, he was a struggling nobody, a complete unknown in the established, successful artist circles of his time. Does anyone remember Jean-Francois Millet and Jules Breton today; even tough they were superb artists and major influences on Van Gogh?
Wald claims “As far as the evolution of black music goes, Robert Johnson was an extremely minor figure, and very little that happened in the decades following his death would have been affected if he had never played a note”. (*1) Later, Wald makes a point that there were many “popular” blues artists, who recorded more sides, sold more records and had achieved more fame than Robert Johnson: Tampa Red, Leroy Carr, Bumble Bee Slim and Peetie Wheatstraw to name but a few. As much as I love those guys, I don’t think anyone would sensibly argue that they had any more of an impact on “black music” than Johnson did. Indeed, none of the acoustic country style blues player of Johnson’s period could be compared to the black jazz singers and bands of the time, in popularity or record sales. The “race records” marketed to the pre-war rural audiences could not seriously be considered as significant influences on the evolution of “black music” How many stars in the history of so called “black music” later pointed to Peetie Wheatstraw or Blind Boy Fuller as a major influence? How many records of Bo Carter and Leroy Carr still sell today? How many people still cover their songs? Robert Johnson, on the other hand, has been widely covered by many black blues musicians since the post-war period. Elmore James, Sonny Boy Willamson and Muddy Waters covered Robert Johnson in the 1950’s. His stepson Robert Lockwood Junior and compatriot Johnny Shines continued his legacy. Even among contemporary blues performers who learned their trade from the blues of the past, including from those who were popular, popularized or “rediscovered” during the 1960’s blues revival, Johnson’s music was a major influence. The evolution of the blues continues and Johnson had a profound influence on this evolution, albeit not until more than thirty years after his death. Taj Mahal, Keb’ Mo, Little Whitt and Big Bo, Cassandra Wilson, Marcus Roberts, Guy Davis, Etta James, Cephas & Wiggins, Homesick James, Pyeng Threadgill and Dr. Isiah Ross are just some of the black blues performers who have covered Johnson. Unless one assumes that contemporary blues is not “black music”, even when played by black performers, Wald is evidently in error. If one drops the racialist descriptive “black music” and just thinks of “music”, as some of us idealists still favor, Wald’s statement would be utterly false. Indeed and undeniably, Robert Johnson had a profound affect on the evolution of popular music, Rock-n-Roll and contemporary blues. Wald accepts this, but asserts that the subsequent popularity of Johnson is as the result of the invention of whites. One could likewise falsely argue that Van Gogh had no relevance on painting in Holland during his time and even if he had never painted a stroke, Dutch painting would have evolved with or without him. Van Gogh, however, emerged as the most popular post-impressionist painter because people worldwide embraced him. The fact that he was Dutch became essentially irrelevant. He became an internationally respected artist and the Dutch eventually accepted him. Does anyone today draw national distinctions as to how and why Van Gogh is so beloved? Intellectualize it all you want. It’s because when his work became available to the wide public, when people finally got to see his pictures, they loved it. Vincent Van Gogh became a superstar.

Why did Robert Johnson become so popular? Why do blues lovers from Japan to Finland, from Mali to Main Street America love Robert Johnson? Today, people have lots of choice. Thousands of blues CDs have been issued. Could it really be because blues writers have influenced the audience with mythological tales, persona glorification? I don’t think so.

I understand the propensity of people to singularly focus on the Voodoo based soul-sacrifice and the origins of that mythology. I can also understand scholarly efforts to document ethno-musicological reasoning of how and why this imagery took such a strong place in Johnson’s lyrics. Wald and others, such as Barry Pearson, have done a good job to document the origin of this. Frankly, way too much has been made of it and even otherwise normal, reasonable people somehow get swept up in this cult-like mystification of Johnson. A popular poster by self-described folk-artist , Grego , even shows Johnson in the now familiar guitar-holding pose, complete with devil’s horns, hell-fire red skin and claw like fingers with the inscription “Robert Johnson-Delta Bluesman- He had a hellhound on his trail but a glass of whiskey set him free”. How stupid!

They debased a great artist and reduced him to the very personification of the devil himself. No wonder Johnson is having a hard time getting the deserved respect and admiration among African-Americans. Johnson has not gained acceptance as an international cultural success and is skipped over in African-American Month celebrations when other black historical figures, artists, actors and writers are widely celebrated. This caricature of a true genius created by all those who profited from him, including his new found legal heirs, actually served to deprive him of his rightful place in cultural history-as a musical genius.

Johnson’s records were predominately sold to the baby-boomer generation in Europe and the US. It’s one thing to market a record to otherwise sensible people by hyping a folk-legend, but it’s another to take the quantum leap to fathom that people actually buy into this story. Wald does a good job dispelling some of that nonsense, but clearly there is a group of people who still buy into this. I once talked to Robert Lockwood Jr., Johnson’s’ stepson, about this situation. He just shook his head and said “Shiiiit”. This poster is a gross example of ignorance and nothing else. Do people really believe that there is a devil in the first place? Would these same educated, white listeners really believe that someone, like, let’s say, their own grandfather, could have sold his soul to the devil in 1932 and that he actually was able to complete the deal, like Dr. Faustus did to Mephistopheles in the play written in 1581. I saw the damned play and found it interesting. Yet, I did not believe it any more than I believed the Johnson legend and it is not because I am uniquely enlightened or insightful, or the center of the intellectual universe, but I am a pretty normal, average guy, who was turned on to Johnson in the early 1970s. I read all that devil stuff, but it did not fit into my own belief system or life experiences. To me, there is no devil and you could not sell your soul to him if you tried. Most people don’t.

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Jungleland le Mar 11 Juil 2006 - 13:40

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It seems to me that people love Johnson, like Van Gogh, because once he was brought out of obscurity and offered to the public, people finally got to hear his music, and they loved it. If blues pundits really believe that it came from books, marketing hype or Faustian myths of selling his soul to the devil and all the things that were written about Johnson, they are kidding themselves. Average people don’t read blues books. The blues press talks to itself. You could take all the books written about the blues, from Samuel Charters seminal “The Country Blues” and “The Roots of the Blues” to all the books written about Robert Johnson, stick them all in a potato sack and it would not make or break a difference in record sales. Robert Johnson did not become an internationally beloved artist who sold a million box sets because of what was written about him. People listened when CBS issued “Robert Johnson-King of the Delta Blues Singers” in Europe in 1966 (in the US in 1961; many British musicians obtained the earlier US issue). The record made an impact on budding young musicians who ended up becoming influential on buying decisions of thousands of young people, which gave the record a huge marketing boost. Like millions of kids in the late 1960’s, I first heard about Robert Johnson through musicians like Eric Clapton. However, one statement from Eric Clapton that Robert Johnson was his favorite musician may have been enough to move thousands to buy the LP, including musicians worldwide; but, not enough to make us actually like it. I was fourteen years old and I loved it then and I love it still. By the time Columbia issued the Robert Johnson box set twenty-four years later, millions of people had heard Robert Johnson from hundreds of covers on recordings by other blues musicians, who had learned the songs from original 1961/1966 LP. The popularization of Robert Johnson was a 20th Century phenomena, which posthumously turned the once obscure young musician into a top selling, widely beloved star and influential force on contemporary blues.


Wald is right that many blues writers incorrectly over-romanticized and glorified Johnson, but he never once embraced the notion in his book that the audience can think for itself and that people are not as easily fooled as the media tends to believe. Robert Johnson was not the first entertainment figure that was mythologized and deified beyond reason to legendary status. Americans, in particular, have the propensity and need for that kind of hero-worship and exaggeration for actors, rock stars and sports figures. Know-it-all-writers of liner notes and media kits can glorify someone all they like, but people will make up their own minds. Wald correctly pointed out that this is yet another case in American culture where a little hot air made the image balloon rise. Terms like “King of the Delta Blues” are mere marketing slogans and when we are sold an artist with the notion that he is the most important musician in the genre, it is not much different than being told that a brand of potato chips is the best tasting of them all. Does Wald not know that we all saw beyond that all along? After all, we are the baby-boomer TV generation who has been bombarded by commercial messages since birth. In the end, it’s the substance, not the stories or the hype.

People don’t love Robert Johnson because he allegedly sold his soul to the devil at midnight at the Mississippi crossroads or because he led a wild life and died a tragic, premature death by poison by a jealous husband, or because John Hammond wanted him for the “From Spirituals to Swing” concert. They don’t love Vincent Van Gogh because he was a starving artist, cut his ear off for a longing love, struggled with his demons and because he took his own life. They love, admire and respect them on their true artistic merit, because Robert Johnson was an awesome player, and Vincent Van Gogh because was a brilliant painter. People respond to what they see and hear with their own senses and judgment, to what touches them in the heart.

Ultimately, people also see beyond the petty racialism that continues to plague the blues as a musical genre. No other musical form anywhere in the world, possibly besides Jazz, is so marred by race and racism. Rather than to celebrate the on-going cultural success of African-American heritage, the international embrace of the cultural contribution music, the same pitifully primitive, cliché arguments arise over and over. Robert Johnson is not popular because of white writers, blues pundits or white audiences. He is popular because many people worldwide eventually got a chance to hear him and realized he was an awesome musician.

As far as Johnson copying others, no doubt it’s true. But one thing I learned as a blues lover is that I could spend ten years pointing out that thousands of blues songs are plagiarized. Soon someone will write another big, fat blues book that nobody will read: “The Encyclopedia of Stolen Blues Lyrics, Melodies and Riffs.” They all did it. It was not unique to Johnson and it does not change a thing.

I love the blues outright and can make a list of hundreds of musicians who have touched me in a special way. If I had to take just one blues CD to a desert isle, it would still be Robert Johnson (John Coltrane, Lester Young and Miles Davis would sneak into the back-pocket). It’s not because of what he was and what he wasn’t. It’s because of how his music makes my soul tingle.
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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Invité le Ven 4 Aoû 2006 - 20:19

Wink Salut à tous, nouveau sur ce forum, je suis chanteur-guitariste passionné de blues et bien entendu admirateur de Robert Johnson depuis que je l'ai découvert... il y'a près de 40 ans !
Mon pote Lucky est ici photographié sur sa tombe (enfin une des deux ?)... je vous jure que ça fout les "boules"... le frisson passe...



et le légendaire ''carrefour''...



A + sur ce chouette forum !

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Message par papiblues le Sam 5 Aoû 2006 - 11:16

A vendre guitare de blues ancienne: http://www.globalrhythm.net/worldnews/RobertJohnsonsGuitarForSale.cfm

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Jungleland le Sam 5 Aoû 2006 - 11:29

bluesonic a écrit:Mon pote Lucky est ici photographié sur sa tombe (enfin une des deux ?)... je vous jure que ça fout les "boules"... le frisson passe...

apparemment il y en aurait même trois Shocked

enfin c'est ce qu'il disent sur ce site qui répertorie les tombes des bluesmen : http://www.deadbluesguys.com/dbgtour/johnson_robert.htm



papiblues a écrit:A vendre guitare de blues ancienne: http://www.globalrhythm.net/worldnews/RobertJohnsonsGuitarForSale.cfm

http://www.rjguitar.com/

pour 6 millions de dollars je vais sans doute attendre un peu

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Jungleland le Mer 16 Aoû 2006 - 8:07

aujourd'hui c'est le Robert Johnson's Day

une petite vidéo que j'ai sans doute déjà posté avec quelques mots d'Eric Clapton et de Keith Richards et ensuite une belle reprise de Rory Gallagher



Can't You Hear The Wind Howl

Rory Gallagher - Walking blues/Dont think twice (1994)

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par peperoni26 le Mer 16 Aoû 2006 - 15:46

repose en paix robert Crying or Very sad
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Et Robert Johnson????

Message par Invité le Dim 10 Déc 2006 - 1:56

J'épluche ce forum depuis un petit moment maintenant, et, oh surprise, pas un mot sur Monsieur Robert Johnson!!!! Shocked
j'ai peut etre mal vu, il n'est pas tres tot, j'ai du le rater!!!! Embarassed
Bon, je vais remedier à cette lacune!

Dust my Broom, Walkin' Blues, Crossroads, Kindhearted Woman, Love in Vain , Stop Breaking Down, Rambling on my Mind, They're Red Hot,.... et bien sur "SWEET HOME CHICAGO"
Une oeuvre considérable!
Né dans le delta le 8 mai 1911, le jeune Robert est plus intéressé par la musique que par le travail.
Il admire Leroy Carr, Lonnie Johnson, rencontre de nombreux bluesmen dont charlie Patton, Son House(un de ses maitres).
Puis il s'associe de temps à autre avec Johnny shines, Sonny Boy Williamson, Elmore James.....
Etre instable, irritable, grand buveur, coureur invétéré, il ne cesse de s'atirer des ennuis!
Repéré, comme Skip James, par le dénicheur de talent de l'époque, HC Speir, Il enregistre 29 titres en 3 séances entre 1936 et 1937, à San Antonio pour ARC, filiale de Columbia.
Il vend peu de disques, sauf "Terraplane Blues", mais ces disques frappent les auditeurs par leur force!
Johnson meurt empoisonné à cause d'une "histoire de femme ", après une longue nuit d'agonie dans un bouge du mississipi, le 16 aout 1938 à Greenwood!
Une oeuvre d'une qualité exceptionnelle, le meilleur du Delta Blues!
Rechercher absolument "The Complete Recordings"!
La légende dit que Robert Johnson avait vendu son ame au diable pour jouer de la guitare ainsi!

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Jungleland le Dim 10 Déc 2006 - 10:13

si si on en parle ici : http://www.aupaysdublues.com/viewtopic.forum?t=13

Si tu recherches un artiste il y a un index dans la partie "le forum" qui permet de trouver directement le bon topic ... sauf si j'ai oublié de le mettre à jour Wink

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Izzy le Ven 12 Jan 2007 - 15:51

Ah, je me rememore la discusion sur Robert entre Keith Richards et Brian Jones
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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Eldoro le Ven 12 Jan 2007 - 19:07

celle ou ils disent qu'il y a deux guitares Wink !
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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Old_Debris le Sam 12 Mai 2007 - 11:27

Tout le monde connait la photo de robert Johnson.
Vu sur la gazette de Greenwood.

Exclusif : la quatrième photo de Robert Johnson

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par Jungleland le Sam 12 Mai 2007 - 11:43

ils en sont certains sur la gazette ?

parce que je sais que cette photo a déclenché une grosse polémique sur les forums de blues. Et à la lecture de tout ça impossible de se faire une idée

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Re: Robert Johnson

Message par axsir le Sam 12 Mai 2007 - 11:47

Old_Debris a écrit:Tout le monde connait la photo de robert Johnson.
Vu sur la gazette de Greenwood.

Exclusif : la quatrième photo de Robert Johnson

affraid affraid my God, une nouvelle photo de Bebert Johnson!!!

merci Debris pour cette pièce d'archive, par contre je ne connais que deux photos de notre héros :





Si tu pouvais nous parler de la troisième photo STP - que je la fasse parvenir à E. Clapton, 62 ans, né dans le Surrey, vaguement intéressé par le bonhomme!!

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